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BobB
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Posted: Jan-29-08 at 12:47am | IP Logged  

This was sent to me recently by a family member. Welcome to another day in my life.

 

"Some years ago,  I walked into my office after a Sunday morning service  to find a sandwich bag on my desk  containing three chocolate brownies.  Some thoughtful and anonymous person who knew my love for  chocolate had placed them there,  along with a piece of paper that had a short story written  on it.  I immediately sat  down and began eating the first brownie as I read the following story:

   Two teenagers asked their father if they could go to the theater to watch a movie that all their friends had seen.  After reading some reviews about the movie on the Internet, he denied their request.

   'Aw dad, why not?' they complained.  'It's rated PG-13, and we're both older than  thirteen!'

   Dad replied, 'Because that movie contains nudity and portrays immorality as being normal and acceptable behavior.'

   'But dad, those are just very small parts of the movie!  That's what  our friends who've seen it have  told us.  The movie is two hours long and those scenes are just a few minutes of the total film!  It's  based on a true story, and good  triumphs over evil, and there are other redeeming themes like courage and self-sacrifice.  Even the movie review websites say that!'

   'My answer is  'no,' and that is my final answer.  You are welcome to  stay home tonight, invite some of  your friends over, and watch one of the good videos we have in our home collection.  But you will  not go and watch that film.  End of discussion.'

   The two teenagers walked dejectedly into the family room  and slumped down on the couch.   As they sulked, they were surprised to hear the sounds of  their father preparing something  in the kitchen.  They soon recognized the wonderful aroma of brownies baking in the oven, and one of  the teenagers said to the other,  'Dad must be feeling guilty, and now he's going to try  to make it up to us with some  fresh brownies.  Maybe we can soften him with lots of praise when he brings them out to us and persuade  him to let us go to that movie  after all.'

   About that time I began eating the second brownie from the sandwich bag and wondered if there was some connection to the brownies I was eating and the brownies in the story.  I kept reading...

   The teens were not disappointed.  Soon their father appeared with a plate of warm brownies which he offered to his kids.  They each took one.  Then, their father said, 'Before you eat, I want to tell you something: I love you both so much.'

   The teenagers smiled at each other with knowing glances.  Dad was softening.

   'That is why I've made these brownies with the very best ingredients.   I've made them from scratch.  Most of the ingredients are even organic.  The  best organic flour.  The best free-range eggs.  The best organic sugar.  Premium vanilla and chocolate.'  The brownies looked mouth watering, and the teens began to become a little impatient with their dad's long speech.  'But I want to be perfectly honest with you.  There is one ingredient I added that is not usually found in brownies.  I got that ingredient from our own  back yard.  But you needn't worry, because I only added the tiniest bit of that ingredient to your brownies.  The amount of the  portion is practically insignificant. So go ahead, take a bite and let me know what you think.'

   'Dad, would you mind telling us what that mystery ingredient is before we eat?'

   'Why?  The portion I added was so small.  Just a teaspoonful.  You won't even taste it.'

   'Come on, Dad!  Just tell us what that ingredient is.'

   'Don't worry!  It is organic, just like the other ingredients.'

   'Dad!'

   'Well, OK, if you insist.  That secret ingredient is organic...dog poop.'

   I immediately stopped chewing that second brownie and I spit it out into the waste basket by my desk.  I continued reading, now fearful of the paragraphs that still remained.

  
Both teens instantly dropped their brownies back on the plate and began inspecting their fingers with horror.

   'DAD!  Why did you do that?  You've tortured us by making us smell those brownies cooking for the last half hour, and now you tell us that you added dog poop!  We can't eat these brownies!'

   'Why not?  The amount of dog poop is very small compared to the rest of the ingredients.  It won't hurt you.  It's been cooked right along with the other ingredients.  You won't even taste it.  It has the same consistency as the brownies.  Go ahead and eat!'

   'No, Dad...NEVER!'

   'And that is the same reason I won't allow you to go watch that movie.  You won't tolerate a little dog poop in your brownies, so why should you tolerate a little immorality in your movies?  We pray that God will not lead us unto temptation, so how can we in good conscience entertain ourselves with something that will imprint a sinful image in our minds that will lead us into temptation long after we first see it?'

   I discarded what remained of the second brownie as well as the entire untouched third brownie.   What had been irresistible a minute ago had become detestable.  And only because of the very slim chance that what I was eating was slightly polluted.  (Surely it wasn't...but I couldn't convince  myself.)
 

 What a good lesson  about purity!  Why do we tolerate any sin?  On the day of the Passover, the Israelites were commanded to remove every bit of leaven from their homes.  

 Sin is like leaven - a little bit leavens the whole lump (1 Corinthians 5:6-7) faith and sin, don't mix.


 



Edited by BobB on Jan-29-08 at 12:50am


      

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Posted: Jan-29-08 at 8:53am | IP Logged  

///thank you for an absolute belly laugh!

      

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Posted: Jan-29-08 at 9:33am | IP Logged  

Unfortunately, for me too, I've heard that one before.

 

 



      

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HarryTick
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Posted: Feb-01-08 at 9:15am | IP Logged  

In fact, faith and sin are not even found in the same realm together.

      

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Posted: Feb-01-08 at 9:23am | IP Logged  

One might even look at the story as thinking that somehow law, "poop", can be mixed with grace at all.As Bill just noted they do not exist in the same realm . the thought that somehow we can even mix a tiny bit of law so that the "grace" would still be palatable is a myth.the same kind of myth that probably drove many seeking Life out of the ic,those who kept insisting on putting poop in the brownie mix.

Edited by mcdave on Feb-01-08 at 9:24am


      

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Posted: Feb-01-08 at 11:03am | IP Logged  



      

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Posted: Feb-01-08 at 1:03pm | IP Logged  

Yes, yes ... this is great!! :)

Jim


      

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Posted: Feb-01-08 at 1:33pm | IP Logged  

Thanks. To me, leaven has always been the teaching of the Pharisee's. In this case it seems to be the objection to nudity and violence. It may not be true in all cases, but I grew up in this mentality and it was a recipe for over self indulgence! Thanks for your responses.

      

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Posted: Feb-01-08 at 2:57pm | IP Logged  

Dave great thoughts!

I think maybye our perception of it is mixed..not that the reality it self ever could be!



      

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