agendas with ourselves, agendas with one another, agendas amongst group gatherings, etc. ... whatever they may be .... i found the following from theshovel.net so refreshing and thought provoking this morning! great stuff really!
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"To determine the right agenda so that it can be nurtured is a bogus concept.
When you say that we all have an agenda, you are being too kind. :) The fact is that all of us have too many agendas.
The fallacy is our assumption that the life of Christ is numbered
among those agendas. It establishes that as long as I am offering
Christ to others that I am offering the true or correct agenda that
needs to be nurtured. Hence the doctrinal approach ... . But we don't agree with that approach ... but we do ... but
we don't ... but we do ... but we don't - ad infinitum. hahahaha!When does doctrine become false? When the life of Christ is removed
from the very words that are spoken, and the wording changes (or is
reinterpreted) so that it can be supported from the Holy Writ.
Agendas ... I've got too many of them. Are we really to sort through
to find the right agenda and nurture it? Or are we to look those
agendas right in the face and let them all fall by the wayside so that
we really have something to offer? Nobody needs any of my agendas! I
don't need any of my agendas. It is why I often stop and ask myself, 'Jim, what are you trying to offer here', and 'what do you really have to offer here?' It is the apostle Paul's conclusion that I continually come to,
For I determined to know nothing among you except Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2
I have no problem that people come in with agendas, for all who come
in have many of them. For those who come in to get a rest from those
agendas (though they are not aware of how many they still hold to) and
to hear of Christ instead, is what this group has been about ... .
Those who come in with a DETERMINED agenda to undermine this is where
I have the problem. And yes, I know that they THINK that they are
doing God's will. I have a problem that we are afraid to call this for
what it is. We are afraid to recognize that there are false brothers
who sneak in to spy out our liberty in Christ and to bring us into
bondage. I often hear the claim that we are mature enough to handle
such a thing, but the fact is that this is exactly where we establish
those little corners in our room where Christ has no effect ... those
places where we are left in confusion. It is right here that we will
conclude that Christ is an agenda, howbeit, the correct one. And it
establishes another one of those fallacies in our thinking that if and
when we finally understand this issue we will be free of it ... instead
of resting in the reality that we are already free of it.
We are afraid that someone's potential of being overtaken by the
reality of Christ might be snipped in the bud at such effrontery. I
don't suggest the confrontation of doctrine ... and I hope you know that
of me. I am referring to the fact that we have been given the mind of
Christ and we are brought into the realm where we can judge all things.
It is the simple stuff that we KNOW when somebody's words say one thing
and it is so obvious that they merely use words to get their agenda in.
But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of Christ might remain with you Galatians 2:5
How many hours do we have to wait before we call attention to a
person's preaching of himself? Why are we afraid of it? Is it because
we're afraid that many will think we are being ungracious as many did of
Jesus and of Paul? Are we afraid that it will stifle and curtail
others in their quest for truth?
We will find many of the same old issues popping up each time there are
encounters with another self-preacher. We may wonder why certain people
are unable to deal with it and are shaken so easily. The heart of the
problems will always be a diminishing of Christ in our perceptions. But
it will sound like, 'Your truth is just as valid as my truth', or 'It is presumptuous to think we can KNOW', or 'How do we know that we're right and they are wrong?', etc, etc.
The worst thing in connection with a self-preacher is to have that preaching of themselves be raised to the level of their agenda vs. the agenda of CHRIST or
that your agenda and my agenda is the one that needs to be nurtured.
No, no, no! Their agenda is no better than my agenda or yours because
agendas are of the flesh - fleshly - while Christ is seated above in the
heavenlies where we are hidden in God.
I know you really believe that. :) Don't let the fear that you might
come across as if you believe your opinions are better than someone
else's opinions put the life of Christ into the realm of opinion. Just
because someone insists that the message of Christ is your opinion or
your agenda don't listen to that and then find that you have to adjust
the message of Christ as-you-preach-it to be merely the one that is more
scriptural, or the one that works, or the one they like best, etc.
may we always preach Christ and Him crucified and our sufficiency and our all
"afterall, he's not a tame lion"