|Posted: Feb-05-02 at 8:08pm | IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by Jolamo on 2/03/02
Wow! I gotta be careful of that clear form button. What is the ruling force in this world? Death or condemnation or Eternal Life-Grace & Truth?
There may be more options to this. I don't know. I ask this Question in regards to where Paul mentions in Romans 5:14 that death reigned from Adam to Moses. Anyone have any thoughts?
I don't think Paul's reason for bringing up the "from Adam to Moses" has anything to do with making a distinction between the ruling force of death and condemnation as being an either / or thing. The whole point of his argument was to point out that death reigned during the time before the Law was given over people who didn't break any specific God-given laws.
Why is this important to know? Because their whole reality under sin and death was upon them because of one man: Adam. It was all put into place before they were even born - they had no choice in the matter!! Everybody born through Adam was born into this sin and death. It was gratis - a freebie! Period.
Why is this important to know? Because righteousness and life is passed in the same way ... negatively speaking, that is (that's how the language presents it.) We had nothing to do with this righteousness and life passing to us for it was accomplished without our consent and without our input. It is gratis - a freebie!!
So the distinction of "condemnation" through Moses had to do with how the Law produced massive quantities of sin. There is a likeness between Adam and Moses in that both were given specific commands. Adam broke a command, but that command could not be broken by those born through him since he was removed from the presence of the object of that one command.
Adam understood what it was to be given a specifc command from God, and he understood the consequences for God had spoken it to him ahead of time. The Jews understood what it was to be presented with specific commands from God, and they understood the condemnation that was deserved because it had been clearly stated ahead of time.
The people between Adam and Moses were not given any such commands from God (even though they came up with their own) and God had no basis for holding them liable for sin and death simply because they were IN Adam.
We are given life and righteousness simply because we are IN Christ. It's a gift. We didn't bring it about, we didn't decide ourselves into it, we weren't consulted about it all at.