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The Stuff of Grace
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mary
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     I had been struggling with this for years.   I used to be a fervent pray-er in the IC.  And then when I came into the beautiful rest of Christ, I found myself joyfully relieved of it.  It's been about 10 years of rest.    About a month ago, I began questioning and wanting to sort out the 'prayer' thing, I wanted to know the difference between a Spirit-motivated prayer, and the laborious  kind I used to do.  The laborious kind used to be mingled with alot more flesh than I ever wanted to be a part of again.  The 'charismatic' flavor of my Christianity also led me into the extreme conciousness of the demonic realm.  In that respect, I came into the revelation of where I was placed in that, which is "far above", so I don't pray anymore with a consious awareness of that.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          (rabbit trail)  In my day to day relating to some old friends (still in the IC) through Facebook, a re- connection to three of them has come.  I am pretty open, so when I post a status, there can be responses.  They are listening, peering, as it were over the fence and shadow of the IC to this real connection to Life.  I got together with one of them last week, who quietly sad, "Maybe when you come over sometime, you can share more with me."  Well, I am not a preacher or an expounder of the Life, so maybe down the road to come, my dear husband who is,   will have 'that' particular joy. 
         
          I don't know to cross the fences with those that are still bound by shadows of this wonderful, initmate, real love relationship with God, but because I know it within myself, every once in awhile when I sense it I'll pray for a sister who is struggling.  These days, I don't find myself exhausted, or heavy, when I do.  But it is almost as though I can 'see' the frustration of performance-based religion, and am able to pray intuitively when I do. 

        
          


      

Mary
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Mary this is a wonderful post.

I have often wondered about living prayers and it's connecting to the true Life. I guess as I think about it now, there is probably much prayer being performed based in the realm of separation.[that of the flesh] Knowing that He lives in me, knowing that He hears me when I ask anything according to His will, is all connected to the living Spirit living in me.[a spontaneous thought and expression I suppose] How ever that looks like is probably not as important as is the Life that fuels the "prayers". I think it is too easy to think there is some rule against prayer just as there is a tendency to think that there is a rule that we ought to pray. We see it in the saints[present and active] through out the whole NT but, we also know what it is to view that according to the mind of man. I look forward to the clarity I will be receiving on prayer, I encourage anyone else who wants to share what God is showing them regarding it. Thanks Mary.

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It is peace[the kind we long for] to know that my life patterns do not distract or derail the Living God"-Adam

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     Adam, you're welcome!   And thank you for what you shared as well -you captured it. 


      

Mary
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I can't help but liken it in some sense to a marriage relationship. I know what it is to have it communicated to me that my lack of communication means a lack of love on my part, which has always frustrated me. A so-called "prayer life" ends up usually being the same law-minded mentality. I think God could care less if I spent "30 minutes" with him every day like clockwork, making sure I perform that "acts" prayer faithfully- Adoration, Confession, Thanksgiving, Supplication. I think you can see how this make prayer out to be just another "thing" for the dead flesh to use for it's own gratification, rather than the simple and genuine expression of Life that Adam and Mary speak of.

It just sets well with me that there is so much more to communication (and I would add prayer to that) than mere words. I don't see prayer as some "principal" to be used to try to manipulate God into hearing me, but more of a privileged communication of 2 hearts made one, which at times finds itself expressed outwardly in what I say and think and feel.

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What do you see when you look at me? Not the visible me that your eyes can see. For in Christ I am dead, yet alive and free. Free to be it all, as he lives in me.
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Posted: Jul-30-10 at 11:15am | IP Logged  

that was really awesome mclady!  i enjoyed that very much!    i rejoice in the freedom you have found yourself to be in ... that miraculous life that is yours in entirety ... that miraculous life you have been made one with ... that miraculous life that we share together as one.  






      

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    Thanks Sher!   And may I add that what you have shared is an awesome encouragement too? 


      

Mary
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Posted: Jul-30-10 at 4:25pm | IP Logged  

It makes me think the question, why is God going to
get upset if I don't spend 30 minutes "with Him", when
I am joined to him, live in him 24/7/365?

      

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Posted: Jul-31-10 at 9:41am | IP Logged  


    I like that Bill, yes I do!


Edited by mary on Jul-31-10 at 9:41am


      

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