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Biblical Interpretation
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luvin
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Well my topic has wayyyyyyyy more than just Proverbs being the only subject matter..no i wanna speak on anything and everything that we are interested in or want to improve in..in view of His grace.

What i mean is:we all learn things to improve..get bye..or even to excel in.If someone wants to learn how to ride a bike..he gets help to learn how to ride the bike.If someone wants to get a teaching credential he or she goes and gets the education. If you want to have a discussion about the archeology found in biblical times..then you got to go study those things.But in our minds..how does grace work in these things?I susupect that we are FREE[freedom meaning/lack of wrong spiritual consequences] to do what we wish in Him..due to the settledness of His power and work already accomplished for us.I often live in fear of not wanting to be "legalistic" about my approach on things not realizing that maybye that doesnt matter!

I think when we hear freedom..we sometimes may[or at least i tend to think]conjure up pictures of someone just dying to "sin" that wants to free wheel all over town!But is that "freedom"?Maybye freedom is knowing that your life is permantly,spiritually ok in ALL things???Not the things themselves...its that You in Christ..your spiritual life is settled in rock..and it isnt attached to anything you do ,can do,learn,say...misdeed..dont misddeed..or whatever!Maybye thats why we can have such peace because of the unchangingness that has not connection to the world fulfilled in us.Am i on to something here??



      

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Adam,

Not sure I am following in all things you are saying here, but liked your domatism in saying that freedom is knowing that your life is permanently spiritually ok in all things ....  settled in rock ....  not attached to anything we do.

With regard to what you said about people thinking of freedom in terms of "people just dying to sin" it reminds me so much of how the very first backhanded comment you usually get when talking about freedom in grace is the.... but remember Paul said 'should we sin that grace may abound?'...  all to kind of dispell it seems any revolutionary thinking with regard to grace.  It reminds me of a question that came to mind recently and that was .... Does God's grace cover THAT?  ... if anyone would sin that grace might abound?  It seems the quoters of that verse are suggesting it doesn't. 

Joyce

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"Am i on to something here??" <-- Adam



" ... fulfilled in us"    <-- Adam



"Maybe freedom is knowing that your life is permantly,spiritually ok in ALL things???Not the things themselves...its that You in Christ..your spiritual life is settled in rock..and it isnt attached to anything you do ,can do,learn,say...misdeed..dont misddeed..or whatever!"  <-- Adam



"I often live in fear of not wanting to be "legalistic" about my approach on things not realizing that maybye that doesnt matter!"

I think we often mistake the Grace of GOD with 'social graces' of whatever society we find ourselves in.  I think the grace of GOD is far beyond that.  My best comfort with these things is remembering that Christ Himself Is all the 'character' that GOD requires and expects in us.  When I find myself in the trap of trying to decipher whether or not I am being 'legal' or 'gracious', etc. it helps to be reminded that whatever GOD requires is fulfilled in the One Who is the New Creation and He will Be as He so needs to Be in me.  If He isn't, then it ain't gonna happen anyway.  

What the world expects, requires, demands, etc. of us is another issue altogether, whether it be the world of employment, family, friends, associates, partners, marriage, our own conditioned expectations, etc. ... is that also some of what you are asking about ... how does grace 'work' in these things? 

And does it indeed matter?  <-- This is the best question of all, I think.  : )

GOOD one, Adam! 



Edited by Dignz on Aug-15-06 at 8:53am


      

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WOW!

      

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luvin
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What the world expects, requires, demands, etc. of us is another issue altogether, whether it be the world of employment, family, friends, associates, partners, marriage, our own conditioned expectations, etc. ... is that also some of what you are asking about ... how does grace 'work' in these things? 

And does it indeed matter?  <-- This is the best question of all, I think.  : )

GOOD one, Adam! 
-Dignz

 

Well yeah i guess that's some of what i am hitting at..and then some i soppose!

relearning how to link up God with life again is a trip ya know?[realizing god is already..] 



      

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Instead of trying to 'link GOD up in the things of life', just remember that HE is linked with You and You with Him and you can do as you are so compelled and interested and able.  It doesn't change your 'linkage', if you know what I mean. 

You matter, because HE matters, that is more the point, I think.    Brother, you got the hook-up!  You be LINKED together with GOD Himself!  The ultimate Hook-Up! 



      

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Actually that is EXACTLY what im saying most dear Dignz!Thanks for the wonderful confirmation!

      

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Dignz wrote:
"Am i on to something here??" <-- Adam



" ... fulfilled in us"    <-- Adam



"Maybe freedom is knowing that your life is permantly,spiritually ok in ALL things???Not the things themselves...its that You in Christ..your spiritual life is settled in rock..and it isnt attached to anything you do ,can do,learn,say...misdeed..dont misddeed..or whatever!"  <-- Adam



"I often live in fear of not wanting to be "legalistic" about my approach on things not realizing that maybye that doesnt matter!"

I think we often mistake the Grace of GOD with 'social graces' of whatever society we find ourselves in.  I think the grace of GOD is far beyond that.  My best comfort with these things is remembering that Christ Himself Is all the 'character' that GOD requires and expects in us.  When I find myself in the trap of trying to decipher whether or not I am being 'legal' or 'gracious', etc. it helps to be reminded that whatever GOD requires is fulfilled in the One Who is the New Creation and He will Be as He so needs to Be in me.  If He isn't, then it ain't gonna happen anyway.  

What the world expects, requires, demands, etc. of us is another issue altogether, whether it be the world of employment, family, friends, associates, partners, marriage, our own conditioned expectations, etc. ... is that also some of what you are asking about ... how does grace 'work' in these things? 

And does it indeed matter?  <-- This is the best question of all, I think.  : )

GOOD one, Adam! 


















EXCELLENT QUOTE!



      

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I was just following a trail in a
wonderful Shack Quote by Dignz here..I scrolled up
to view more and noticed the title that I put to the
post as "Proverbs". The funny thing about it is I
had been reconsidering the whole concept of
'applying' Proverbs to our Life in Christ as taught
in the IC. There was a TON of that going on when I
was in my church days. I could not go too far
without someone laying on me a 'early bird gets the
worm' application. I wonder how us who are in Him
here have come to view these? I am seeing them now
as hinderances to living faith. For we do not
'apply' faith we only bear it. Same thing with fruit
and growth and all good things. We do not 'apply'
them we are waiting on Him. The Vine Dresser. Any
thoughts?


      

It is peace[the kind we long for] to know that my life patterns do not distract or derail the Living God"-Adam

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Yea, Adam,,,what you said! perfect!

      

Connie
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In rethinking what I said, probably it will mean what we come to the text with in our minds, which will vary from person to person. It is easy to share what I personally get from things, but who am I to say that someone else with a totally different perspective might not have validity to offer as well?


Edited by gregoryfl on Dec-01-10 at 9:58pm


      

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