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4Rebeccaenm
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Posted: Jul-05-11 at 9:13pm | IP Logged  

Speaking of Casey Anthony's trial
verdict, a friend facebooked, "If she did it we
will never really know... It is in God's hands
now."

Wow. Her words caught me, startled me. I really
haven’t paid attention to the news of the case; I
have nothing to add to the debate. Because I didn't
want to appear antagonistic, in any way, I didn't
reply or comment to her thread...but her words haunt
me. Her comment stirs a question in my mind that
isn't easily silenced, “Wasn’t it always in God’s
hands?”

We may not know for sure who murdered little Caylee,
whether it was Casey or someone else. This some do
know for sure: God was there. He watched. He let it
happen.

At the trial, he stood near as events unfolded and
stories were retold. Truth or not truth, guilty or
innocent, glitter, deception, or disclosure, he
watched. He could have judged, he could have halted,
he could have rained fire, he could have saved her.
He didn’t.

It's in God’s hands, it always was.

What did that mean for little Caylee?

The idea of God makes so much more sense to me when
no one gets hurt. Is it brave or foolish to believe
the non- sense of God?
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the shovel
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Posted: Jul-06-11 at 3:25am | IP Logged  

Becki, thanks for posting your real insight into the nonsense of God. I am confronted with it all the time, and I often find myself hesitating or balking. For the good news itself IS the nonsense or foolishness of God, isn't it? It sure doesn't pan out in view of all that seems right. At least, it sure doesn't to me.

Jim :)


      

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Dignz
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Posted: Jul-06-11 at 4:00pm | IP Logged  

yeah, for what it's worth, i concur with you both.  the wisdom of the world i catch myself entertaining simply can not make sense out of that kind of god.  yet that miraculous wisdom of God Who Is within me simply does not question that wisdom that is so ... well .... not the wisdom of the world.

it gets very frustrating some days with all the back and forth ping ponging in my head!!  makes me dizzy and angry and i eventually reason it into oblivion and then ... take a deep breath and move on.  it used to have the ability to paralyze my heart and mind for a much longer time than it has for a long time now. 

i find myself reasoning sometimes that it is not like the wisdom of the world is going to have any effect or control over that wisdom Who is Love and Who simply can not be explained.  not that that helps the wisdom of the world understand any better.






Edited by Dignz on Jul-06-11 at 4:01pm


      

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Posted: Jul-18-11 at 11:55am | IP Logged  

My wife keeps talking about this and similar news
events. Her question is, "What kind of God picks and
chooses this stuff?" Her conclusion is that God is
either uncaring or not in control. All those years of
listening to someone justify it takes its toll.

Sometimes, just like it is in my job, all you can do
is listen.

      

Bill
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Dignz
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i hope this doesn't come across 'trite' or 'religious'.  i was just thinking how there can be so much LOVE in listening.     i know, there can also be a lot of frustration.    there can also be so much love despite all that frustration.  love is greater than the frustration.  love also certainly rises above any lack of being able to explain and/or answer things to anyone's satisfaction.  even above being able to explain and/or answer things to their satisfaction.  love can very much be in it all.    and that love includes being for, in and toward yourself as well, for love toward and in yourself accepts that you do not always have to have an answer and/or explanation ... even for yourself.  is that too weird or new age religious sounding?     






      

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Posted: Jul-18-11 at 3:49pm | IP Logged  

Broken Link wrote:
My wife keeps talking about
this and similar news
events. Her question is, "What kind of God picks and
chooses this stuff?" Her conclusion is that God is
either uncaring or not in control. All those years
of
listening to someone justify it takes its toll.

Sometimes, just like it is in my job, all you can do
is listen.


Bill,

Thanks for sharing this. I have some thoughts I just
wanted to express. You know what has been supporting
me when I get into that mode your wife goes in and
out of?[because I do too] Is the realization that
had Christ not reminded those with Him that He would
suffer and be forsaken by God, they might have been
totally blown away.[which they were anyway]I mean,
what kind of God would just LET Jesus the very Word
of God just die with no respect, no dignity? The
cruelty, the anguish, the total robbery of that
which was good. Geez how about the excitement and
zeal and love that motivated Stephen to announce the
Christ to the Jews that got him a hundred boulders
thrown at him? What kind of God would LET that
happen? I suppose He could easily spend all His time
righting all the sinful attempts of the flesh or
else He could send a Son who would take away sin and
give us everything we need for Life and godliness.
Restore what was lost in Adam[the very cause of the
darkness in the world]I will tell you that it sure
screams out loud the REAL problem with the world
whenever one of these alwful things happen.

      

It is peace[the kind we long for] to know that my life patterns do not distract or derail the Living God"-Adam

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the shovel
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Posted: Jul-18-11 at 5:33pm | IP Logged  

Thanks to all of you, for this is great encouragement to my heart!! :)

Love, Jim


      

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mary
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Posted: Jul-19-11 at 8:30am | IP Logged  

Oh my yes! Very encouraging! The world wreaks with
this sort of thinking day in and day out. Sometimes I
feel this heaviness on my heart, and I know it has to
do with this 'unjust' 'unfair' mentality. It's nice
to have it talked about here, you feel it subside for
a little while!



      

Mary
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csnarnia
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Posted: Jul-19-11 at 10:22pm | IP Logged  

Personally, I wish I could ask truthfully, "Who is
Casey Anthony?" But because I live in the media I
have to admit I spent a whole 15 minutes reading about
her and wished I hadn't.

Edited by csnarnia on Jul-21-11 at 7:16am


      

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HarryTick
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Posted: Jul-22-11 at 7:39pm | IP Logged  

Adam and Sherry

Her other rants are when people claim events as
miracles or God blessing them. She, like others,
likes to claim the freedom to decide things, but
then lays the blame at God's feet when others get to
make their own decisions. You can't have it both
ways. Was it fair to Caylee? No, but life isn't
fair.

Ultimately, these arguments are distilled into God
not caring about the individual because what they
wanted didn't happen. God didn't perform like the
trained monkey they were taught he was. I find this
reasoning to be based on a faulty premise that we
can dictate his behavior based on our own feelings
about the subject, or even through our own
prescribed actions.

      

Love,
Bill
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Dignz
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Posted: Jul-23-11 at 1:02pm | IP Logged  

hi Bill    hugs right back atcha, brother. 

yeah, i think i get it.  and i so understand it.   who else can be blamed when there are such overwhelming feelings of loss of perceived controls over such situations as x, y and/or z? 

you said it well ... a false premise ... an absolute delusion ... that God is as a trained monkey.  that we can have such power over and above Him to manipulate Him to do as we please, and then when He doesn't, we pitch such fits and get all angry and hateful and blame Him for everything and then declare that we do not and can not believe in such a God, etc. 

you also said it well about the delusion that life is supposed to be 'fair'.  that is one of THE biggest delusions and THE biggest disappointment to learn, accept and conclude in life.  we can often refuse to accept and believe that at any given moment in any one of our many unique-to-us ways.  a lot of time can be spent in life determined to keep that delusion alive in our minds, along with the above mentioned delusion that we hope against all hope that we can manipulate God, etc.  it is a sense of denial such as is common to man. 

thank God that He provided Truth and Sanity above, beyond, in the midst and despite it all ... from OUT-side it all having given us the mind of Christ Who causes us to SEE and to KNOW OTHER-wise ... for we truly are OTHER.    it is only to that Mind and with that Mind that we can truly console and encourage one another when in the midst of such situations, circumstances, frames of mind, etc. 

it is a wonderful thing to be OTHER-minded!  



      

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