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the shovel
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Posted: Mar-24-02 at 9:24am | IP Logged  

Greetings to all who regularly visit the Shack - those who post or those who don't - and all who may just swing by to take a peep!  Welcome! 

There has been some concern lately regarding what might be considered, let's say, "appropriate" posting - with some undertones that, no doubt, cause some to wonder if maybe THEIR comments were the "problem" alluded to by another.  I'm going on record here to say that I don't want this to be a focus on the Shack.  Now, that's not to say that this concern shouldn't be discussed, because that is all part of the stuff we want to bring into the reality of the gospel - the GOOD NEWS - of Christ.

Here is the public statement that has been posted regarding what the Shovel Shack is all about (it's on the link at top that reads "Shack info"):

<<< What Is The Shovel Shack?

The Shovel Shack is an interactive forum designed for YOU to share in the reality of our freedom in Christ with others who visit.  If you have been stimulated by the good news of Christ here on the shovel web site I would love to hear about it and I know others would as well!  You can post your own comments or reply to what has been posted ... or simply join in by reading along.

If you're not sure what this freedom is all about you're in a good place to observe it in action.  You are not required to agree with everything I've written, especially since I don't always agree with everything I've written!  :)  I do ask that your posts be real expressions of your heart with a view to understanding how the good news of Christ fits into everything you are, think and do. >>>

Let me hit some specific recent concerns:

1) Is it okay to "look to" Jim (that's me, the shovel) to answer a question or for his thoughts on something?

Attempting to make a demand one way or the other (either stated or veiled) shouldn't even be an issue!  Yes, we can discuss it - once again, that's all part of our real life questions - but those who are recognizing its bogacity (that's not a word ... but it should be  - you know, the noun form of "bogus"!) can simply rest assured that when it comes up again - AND IT WILL - we can simply pass it off for what it is and get to the real issues behind it.  Don't get caught up in the smoke screens and rabbit trails stirred up by this suggestion.

But aren't some still caught up in "man worship"?  Like, DUH!!  :)  But OF COURSE they are!!  Considering the whole bent of the religious system I rather EXPECT it ... don't you?  And even to think that we can all get on the "same page" here is like chasing the wind ... because as soon as we might perceive we've reached this place somebody new comes in and throws the whole thing off.  hahaha!  But I'm not going to play into it.  Oh, I know it might be viewed as "playing into it" when I answer those who ask ... as if maybe to do so would reinforce that sense of "man worship" in ME.  But if that's the case then why do those who get "answers" from me get less and less attached to their sense of "need" for me ... and why do these same former "man worshippers" end up either going somewhere else to fill their perceived "need" ... or else end up realizing that the real answer has been in THEM the whole time?  The wonder is to witness the growing sense of community ... where believers are actually coming to assume that God is able to breathe life from THEMSELVES into another!!  Yahoo!!  Many will still assume that "Jim" might be able to answer their "Bible" questions with more background, or more "in context", etc, BUT ... and this is a BIG "but" ... these same people will become more and more confident that the real stuff of God is NOT found in that Bible answer, but in the LIVING Christ who is THEIR OWN life.  :)

Let me summarize:

If I am caught up in man-worship then I have a problem, and the answer to my problem is the common life of Christ that is in me.  But on the other hand, if I think I have achieved a state of having no problem with man-worship then I have just as much a problem as before ... only now I think I can control somebody else's "problem".

I'll continue my thoughts in another post ...

Jim



      

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the shovel
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Posted: Mar-24-02 at 10:06am | IP Logged  

Some more thoughts on some recent concerns ...

2) Should we NOT post a side-thought in a discussion that was stimulated by a comment in that discussion?  Or should we worry about it being too trite to even post at all?

You know, this is the stuff that as we are going along in our discussion that sometimes we'll just throw in because it somehow tied in for us.  My thoughts?  What is there to worry about in this?  I mean, really?  Am I afraid that it somehow causes the "life" to go away?  If it doesn't further the discussion it usually just finds its place as a simple thought that came to mind in the process.  It doesn't really bother me to have been stated.  But you know what I REALLY enjoy about this kind of thing?  It's that quite often I've observed a simple off-handed side-thought might just be the most important thing on one or more people's minds!!  Read back a bit and you'll have to notice that many of the topic headings were just that: somebody's "side-thought".

You see, our religious tendency is to allocate life into "secular" vs. "sacred" when in fact there is no such thing!!  What if those "issues" that are most needed to be understood in the light of the freedom of Christ are the very ones that simply pop up?  Religion would demand that you can't be talking about issues concerning your children while having a "spiritual" discussion about Jesus ... but REAL LIFE IN CHRIST would demand that these "issues" with your children just might be the most "spiritual" thing that is going on in your life at the moment.  Are you following me here?

The spirit of religion wants us to perform an ongoing autopsy on life itself.  It wants us to cut it up so that it can "understand" life ... but autopsies are supposed to be performed on the DEAD, not the living.  The gospel of Christ is making demands that everything we REALLY are is somehow connected to the life of God because of the truth that His life has been put within us!!

Some suggestions:

If you have a "side-thought" that really impacts you and seems to stir a different line of thought - don't be afraid to start a new discussion.  The button is right there waiting to be pushed!!  :)

If you have a "side-thought" that is merely a side-thought - don't be afraid to make it, and don't be afraid to make it in the same thread you're in.

Well, that's enough for now ... I'm still working to update the Shoveletter section ... it is a dreadfully meticulous copying and pasting of all previous letters and their responses since 1999!!  [ Whoops ... that was a side-thought! ]

Love, Jim

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PhilTex
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Posted: Jan-07-04 at 6:40am | IP Logged  


Just some thoughts Jim!

      

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PhilTex
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Posted: Jan-07-04 at 6:42am | IP Logged  

Hi Jim

I think I found a glitch. Look at the signature.

      

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the shovel
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Posted: Jan-07-04 at 12:00pm | IP Logged  

PhilTex wrote:
Hi Jim

I think I found a glitch. Look at the signature.


Okay there, good buddy, I got the code out.  Had you made any changes since the forum conversion or did it just automatically show up that way?  If it just happened I'll have to keep my eyes opened for other conversion glitches.  Thanks!

By the way, is the font the size you want, or is it bigger than you had it?

Jim


      

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PhilTex
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Posted: Jan-07-04 at 7:42pm | IP Logged  

Hi Jim

Font size is ok. I think it's the same as before.
As far as changes, it just came up. I had made no changes. I noticed that on Nette's signature also.
Hope this helps.

      

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the shovel
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Posted: Jan-08-04 at 11:41am | IP Logged  

PhilTex wrote:
Hi Jim

Font size is ok. I think it's the same as before.
As far as changes, it just came up. I had made no changes. I noticed that on Nette's signature also.
Hope this helps.


Thanks Phil!

Yes, it does help.  Apparently certain bits here and there weren't translated properly when I ran the database through the updating program (which made it possible to immediately have it up and running instead of me having to go through the entire DB and add the extra tables in).  Anyhow, it seems the program did pretty doggone well if these little things here and there - which I can easily fix - are the only glitches. 

Now, if you or anybody happens to discover more stuff like this just let me know and I'll check it out!! 

Thanks!
Jim


      

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