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Dignz
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welcome to the shovel shack.    your questions are also welcome, along with just sharing whatever is on your heart and mind. 

i have a cuppla questions for you:

what kind of engineering is your 'speciality' .... mechanical/transportational, electrical, chemical, industrial, civil?  

what country and/or state do you engineer in?

whatever you want to share.  if you don't want to share anything, that is perfectly okay, too.  just so you know you are welcome either way. 




      

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the shovel
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Welcome Carl  

      

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Welcome, engineer!

      

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Hey!  Thanks for the welcome!

When I first logged on I didn't have much time to look around so I missed this page.  I am near Salina Kansas and work on the family farm on the side.  We were planting Soybeans and preparing for Wheat harvest at that time.  The farm has cattle and crops.  We mainly grow wheat, corn, soybeans, milo (grain sorghum) and alfalfa hay for the cattle.

On the engineering side I am a mechanical engineer.  We have a family business that builds several different products as well as doing factory automation and engineering consulting.

Darcee and I have been married for 13 years and we have no children.

I grew up around a church environment but my parents were "gracies"  and were somewhat outcast at the small rural Church we attended.  I was exposed to their search as a child and as an adult.  I guess that I have been through the standard stages: Legalist -> Grace -> Christ is Life, with searching in between.  (not trying to make light of it or to make a doctrinal statement or to write a book.) Actually God seemed to throw a switch in me about 3 years ago that put me on the search with a new hunger.  At first It led to more doctrine and study to be "right" and have understanding, but then one day he struck me with the meaning of Phil 3:9.

[9] And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

"not having mine own righteousness"  It's not about ME!   It is about HIM and the finished work he has done.

Great to be here and I can't wait to get to know you all.

Carl

 

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I'm looking forward to it. :) Thanks for the bit of background.

Jim


      

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Welcome Carl.

      

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   Hi Carl,  Welcome!   Wonderful testimony by the way.


Edited by mary on Aug-11-10 at 9:25pm


      

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Sounds like you already have heaven on earth...
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Thank you all for the welcome!

 

csnarnia wrote:
Sounds like you already have heaven on earth...

Things are not always as they seem.  I sure hope heaven isn't anything like this place!

In discussion with a friend about certain points of doctrine, forgiveness, etc, he told me that my views were close to C. S. Lewis.  I have been meaning to read a book or two of his.  I am familiar with the Narnia series but not with any non-story type books.  Would you have any suggestions on where to start?  Any titles come to mind?

Thanks,

Carl

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These are some of Lewis' books. I only read "Mere Christianity" and "Screwtape Letters" and honestly they don't stand out in my memory as something I would recommend. (But it's been awhile and the memory is fadding.)
  1. A Grief Observed
  2. Mere Christianity
  3. The Problem of Pain
  4. The Screwtape Letters
  5. The Great Divorce
But just wanted to say, anything on the shovel I would highly recommend.
(Not that it answers your question)

I used to read a lot of other stuff-guess I was looking for answers, something.
But when God revealed Christ as my life, I stopped searching and rested.
God eventually directed me here and now-
There's no place like the Shovel.


      

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"I used to read a lot of other stuff-guess I was looking for answers, something.
But when God revealed Christ as my life, I stopped searching and rested.
God eventually directed me here and now-
There's no place like the Shovel."-Debi






...and with that we are SO glad to have you AND Carl!!

      

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Debi
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Just had a thought I wanted to add to what I wrote above.

There's no place like the Shovel because the focus is Christ as our life and our dependence being on Him, not on a person.

Jim wrote:
When others always seem to agree with you your confidence is easily borrowed from the other, but when you're stuck out there with none to stand by you then you are forced to stand in the one who is truth. :)



      

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Good add on Debi.

      

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Debi wrote:
These are some of Lewis' books. I only read "Mere Christianity" and "Screwtape Letters" and honestly they don't stand out in my memory as something I would recommend. (But it's been awhile and the memory is fadding.)
  1. A Grief Observed
  2. Mere Christianity
  3. The Problem of Pain
  4. The Screwtape Letters
  5. The Great Divorce

But just wanted to say, anything on the shovel I would highly recommend.
(Not that it answers your question)

I used to read a lot of other stuff-guess I was looking for answers, something.
But when God revealed Christ as my life, I stopped searching and rested.
God eventually directed me here and now-
There's no place like the Shovel.

Thanks for the info and the... un-recommendation and recommendations.

luvin wrote:
Good add on Debi.

I agree!

 

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I remember being very glad that I had read "Mere Christianity". It's been awhile, though.

      

Connie
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the shovel
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Connie wrote:
I remember being very glad that I had read "Mere Christianity". It's been awhile, though.


I'm not sure, but I think that's the one I also enjoyed. I'll have to go back and check out my boxed collection ... boxed, as somewhere in storage. I also loved his fictional story, Till We Have Faces.

Jim


      

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morning ~ just trying to do a little quick 'catch up'.  how is everyone? 

carl, thank you for sharing a bit about your life in kansas.  i enjoyed that.  maybe i will start calling you TOTO?     

does toto WANT to be in kansas anymore? 

interesting about your friend pegging you as believing like CS Lewis.  i guess that is a common habit among humans ... to peg one another.  what's funnier is when you find yourself being pegged in several different pegs at once.  and funnier still is while they are trying so hard to peg you, they perceive you to be jumping in and out of the pegs they are so sure you belong.  it frustrates them.  if you can't stay put in the peg or pegs they believe you to belong , then they just want to be-done-with-you because they don't know what else to do with you.    

yeah ... no ... it isn't always so funny, really.  not always in the ha-ha sense.  but SOME-times it is, i suppose. 

it is wonderful to know that we don't need any pegs to fit into to satisfy the mind of the world.  that mind will never be satisfied.  that is why there are so many pegs to jump in and out of.    if we are in christ, then in him there is no need for pegs, pigeon holes, boxes, classes, labels, etc. between us.   we are aliens passing through ... this is not our home ... just a brief stay ... a visit ... foreigners to be sure.  some times we are just more aware of that reality than at other times.

anyway ...  i blather a lot. 

it is very nice to meet you. 




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Hello again Carl.

Sherri! That was WONDERFUL "blather!"

Sher said:

" i guess that is a common habit among humans ... to peg one another.  what's funnier is when you find yourself being pegged in several different pegs at once.  and funnier still is while they are trying so hard to peg you, they perceive you to be jumping in and out of the pegs they are so sure you belong.  it frustrates them.  if you can't stay put in the peg or pegs they believe you to belong , then they just want to be-done-with-you because they don't know what else to do with you.    "

I too have noticed this common view point. It flows in and out in abundance in accordance with the flesh. Were the flesh is, there this same judgment is.

Thanks Dignz!x2!


      

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Hi Sherri!  Hi Adam!

Toto is doing fine, and Dorthy to!

I love the "blather".  Your absolutely right how people aren't comfortable until they identify which box you fit in.

As to believing like CS Lewis, the comment came up when our conversation hit on 1 John 1:9.  My friend said that Lewis also believed that 1 John 1:9 was not about daily confession.  I guess that was all he picked up from what I was TRYING to say.   Anyway, I thought about seeing what Lewis had to say just as a conversation starter next time I see this friend.

Speaking of 1 John 1:9 I really loved Jims write up on it http://theshovel.net/1-john-1-9-and-confession .  I love all the sidetracks it takes to get the full explanation.   I have known the truth of it for 18 years, but only in the last couple years begun to experience the reality of it in my life.

A couple years ago when I was studying hard trying to figure things out, I became very absolute about things, black and white, this is the meaning etc.  This is also my personality.  Then when Christ revealed it was all him, his work, his life, I lost the hard edge of disecting scripture.  Most of the things I "knew" to be true in the past could no longer be true based on this revelation.  I never doubted the truth of the scriptures, but I lost all faith in MY interpretation.  It is very refreshing to read a Christ centered approach to the scriptures here.

 



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enjoyed your post very much toto!  :)  and thanx for the link to the shovel's 1st john 1:9 explanation.  :)  i will enjoy reading that, i am sure!  :)

i am happy for you to be free-ed up more from what were previous bondages of thought for you.  :)  it is amazing to look back sometimes and see how our thoughts effected us, (and in some instances, still effect us) isn't it?  not to forget also how thoughts and effects could effect others by our mental, emotional, etc. 'state of mind' and reasoning. 

:)








      

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carl, i am sooo excited about the 1st john 1:9 article!  i am reading it right now and i want to just hop up and shout!    i am jumping inside with such renewed encouragement!    i am soooo thankful that you posted it here easy to get to!!     thank you ... thank you ... thank you!     i haven't read it for a few years now, and it is soooo wonderful and encouraging to re-visit it and re-read it today!!   it is AWESOME stuff of LIFE!  thank you mr. shovel-man-dude for that!!    




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Wow!  You just answered something that I have been pondering.  We NEED renewed encouragement!  I wondered how it was things could be going so wrong in the early churches when Paul wrote his letters.  We need fellowship and encouragement!  Thanks!
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hey, maybe this little teaser will intrigue some of you to read the article. (the 1st John 1:9 article mentioned by carl above.    it has great fun threaded through it.  

"But there was a man who stepped on to the scene and changed everything ... and God heard Him. Not only that, but He hears all those who have been made righteous by this one man. So, we don't need no stinkin' weasel!!"

i LOVE that!  no, we no need no steenkeen weasel, mon!!

so to find out what the weasel is exactly, you will have to read the article. 






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I love it!

      

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carl, yes i agree with you ... renewed and/or reminded encouragement is always such a wonderful REFRESHMENT isn't it?  ahhhh .... i soooo thank god for it ... and what is that saying something about how lovely are the feet of them who bring good news, or good tidings, or in other words ... in my mind, could encouragement and/or hope possibly be involved in that news, tidings, or whatever words delivered?  and for us that encouragement and hope is a PERSON ... .

yeah, i know ... it is waaaay past time for me to be in bed.  i got lost on-line doing some research for and with our middle daughter.  we are both going to collapse in our beds now.  honest ... no more distractions. 






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